ItisAJeepThing

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Tucson
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:33:49 PM
Buy a diesel and if diesel fuel gets too expensive, it can easily be converted to run on Liquified Natural Gas (LNG). I predict that LNG will be the fuel of the future. All Electric Vehicles will never go far enough between long charges. Gasoline and diesel are going to get to be too expensive soon.
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LeeFree

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Pittsburgh
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:32:34 PM
If the price of diesel fuel could drop 10% or more sales of diesel vehicles would take off. It is more bang for the buck.
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silverfoxv65

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:32:30 PM
Go diesel go!!!
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chyguy3

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Wyoming
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:31:18 PM
If I made enough money I'd change to diesel right now. One of the reasons diesel is so high is because of higher fed, state and local taxes being charged. Since it became more popular, these guvments saw a money maker just sitting there ready to be raped and they went for it.
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phyl81363

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Delaware
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:28:37 PM
When I buy a New Car it will be Diesel.
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netman044

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Texas
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:28:07 PM
New advances in diesel emissions technology are restoring fuel economy that had been lost in the past. The main problem is that the diesel economy advantage is being offset by higher diesel prices.
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PoohMcGoo

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Alabama
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:25:03 PM
With diesel costing 25-30 cents more at the pump, it'd take a long time to recoup $6-10k at only 25% more efficiency..
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LaVonneK

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Iowa
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:22:15 PM
I've never tried diesel.
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GAC1Shirt

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Georgia
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:20:20 PM
My 2011 Jetta diesel TDI is still getting over 37 mpg in mixed driving since I've own it. 20 years ago, it probably would get 50 but with safety and emissions, you lose some. Even the fuel isn't as good because the cetane rating is less with ultra low sulpher diesel.
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mrbee

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Little Rock
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:19:12 PM
Too high for me.
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idigau22

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Washington
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:13:13 PM
Did you notice when Diesel engines in trucks and cars got popular, the cost of Diesel skyrocketed?? I remember when Diesel was the cheapest fuel on the market!!
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melvindale

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:12:34 PM
I remember a 1980 Volkswagen Diesel Rabbit that got over 50 mpg. It was a very simple car. If today's diesels get that mileage without the diesel clatter, that would be a very good thing.
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GAC1Shirt

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Georgia
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:11:52 PM
here is a good news source on diesels. They do report on the ones coming to the US eventually. Next year, Chevy Cruze (already in Australia), Jeep Cherokee (already in Europe with Fiat engine). Diesel Blog
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GAC1Shirt

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Georgia
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:08:18 PM
Clean diesels engines have particulate traps in the catalyst which burn off at highway speeds. Mine doesn't smoke EVER.
[Edited by: GAC1Shirt at 2/26/2012 9:09:03 PM EST]
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DustyHorse

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:07:41 PM
Maybe if I switch to diesel I won't have to worry about ethanol.
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GAC1Shirt

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Georgia
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:07:17 PM
fact, diesel fuel has more btu per gallon than the lame ass ethanol blended gasoline. Don't let the price fool you. Those of you still addicted to ethanonl are the ones getting screwed. Oh yeah, big farm just got the blend wall raised to 15% on ethanol.
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Dsin44

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Abbotsford
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:04:35 PM
carbon particulate is a concern
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saleboss

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:03:37 PM
Yes, but diesel is already over $4 a gallon!!
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GAC1Shirt

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Georgia
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:03:33 PM
I switched to a 2011 Jetta TDI last year after a sizeable raise which covered the payments. The cost to refuel last year was 1700 dolllars or .10 a mile. My old LeSabre cost me 4000 in 2010 with the same amount of driving. compare at Compare your car to a diesel
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Rt118E

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 8:01:55 PM
Diesel is a fuel we can make from many things other than oil
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goodbuy

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:58:50 PM
Love my diesel. GMC 2500 HD.
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eye-spy

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Quebec
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:58:45 PM
Not too sure about this.
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IUVidiot

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:58:18 PM
time will tell
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swrestler

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:58:11 PM
Time To Get Rid Of Diesel...
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DerHahn

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:57:47 PM
would be great to see more small diesel engines available, but to get people using them we need to first get diesel back to being less than gas.
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nvwarped

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Corpus Christi
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:54:57 PM
ok
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V8power

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:54:50 PM
We'll see.
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Ahking

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:54:13 PM
good to know more options will become available. hope they can keep the prices low.
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checkitnow

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:53:11 PM
the answer is more domestic supply
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mark1962

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Albany
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:51:53 PM
About time!
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575Racing

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Akron
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:51:12 PM
hmmmmm
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iamforiu

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:50:43 PM
yes
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jdc17327

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:50:09 PM
star using something that is more efficient & less stinky like cooking oil or peanut oil?
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slowpoke63

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Louisiana
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:49:22 PM
"And diesel uses oil..." And where does gasoline come from? I would like to have a medium sized pickup with a turbo diesel engine with a manual gearbox. You would have a vehicle with better fuel mileage, performance and durability.
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heysailor

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Pittsburgh
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:47:10 PM
Clean diesel is almost as good as a fuel cell - for now
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jimbo1867

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Arizona
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:44:46 PM
good in some apps .. trucks ... but sucks in cars
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Gearitis

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Waco
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:44:45 PM
Get the treehuggers out of it and diesel engines would then burn bacon grease, but nooooooo gotta have no black smoke. Get the EPA and the deadbeat environmentalist out of it and then we can burn anything.
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EVBuddy

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Nevada
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:44:08 PM
And diesel uses oil, and raises cancer issues with drivers
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gsofrs

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Greensboro
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:44:03 PM
Still Waiting.
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firefly09

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:43:34 PM
Diesel use to be way cheaper than gas. Then cars started using diesel and oh no, gas companies had to get more money for diesel then.
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FunMyster

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:43:32 PM
Offset by higher diesel costs.
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TBRR

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Jacksonville
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:43:09 PM
simple!! the high price of diesel will keep the public from buying a vehicle with a diesel engine in it. meanwhile the cost of living goes up, the recession deepens and the economy stays in the toilet.
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TedNC

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:42:26 PM
Listen to OGW!!. Diesel costs more, more pollution and it smells worse plus the maintenance is outrageous.
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Mr.Dirt

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Albany
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:41:06 PM
at this time diesel is about 40 cents more per gal
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cateyes8264

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Tennessee
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:40:54 PM
The new diesel engines are much quieter and not smelly.
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bonzoonfmb

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Florida
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:40:08 PM
Diesel is not cost effective in most cases and most states.
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sjl08203

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:37:45 PM
Do they seikk smell so bad?
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darkknight1

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Winston-Salem
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:35:58 PM
But is it worth it when diesel fuel is so much higher than gasoline?
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carloco75

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Richmond
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:31:16 PM
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seahawks

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Washington
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:30:18 PM
interesting!!!
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OGW

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London
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:26:21 PM
There is nothing wrong with diesels except they pollute and stink more than a gas vehicle but they don't seem to tell you that the upkeep and maintenance cost is much higher than the same gas vehicle. Most new customers are shocked the first time they even price around for an oil change let along a major service repair. Look at all aspects before you purchase anything. It is a better risk purchasing a used gas vehicle than a used diesel vehicle if yoiu don't know the true history and how the previous owner drove and maintained it. I have many customer who wished they never heard the word diesel. They are the best for what they are intended to do, work and pull but don't make a good street racer. Have one for for heavy work at the shop but more fun driving the gas job for fun and pleasure.
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kingpin6

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Arkansas
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 7:25:08 PM
They better get higher fuel mileage because diesel fuel cost 10-15% more than unleaded!
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